Elmira White (BM HC-84) vs White Dove (BM OC-17)


Illustrative room. Screen colors vary; test a sample before you paint.
Quick decision
- Lighter
- White Dove, LRV 83.2 vs 64.7.
- Warmer
- Elmira White (Lab b* 8.9 vs 4.5). Elmira White reads greige; White Dove reads warm white.
- North rooms
- White Dove: keeps more brightness (L* 90.0 vs 80.8 in north light) and drifts less gray (chroma drop 2.1 vs 4.6).
- Trim that works
- Mountain Peak White BM 2148-70, #F7F5EB, LRV 88.6: the Benjamin Moore white closest in hue to both.
- Closeness
- deltaE 7.0, clearly different. At 7.0, treat them as different colors.
See each color
Elmira White (BM HC-84) is much darker than White Dove (BM OC-17) and warmer: LRV 64.7 vs 83.2, deltaE 7.0 (clearly different).
Side by side
| Measure | Elmira White | White Dove | Gap |
|---|---|---|---|
| Brand | Benjamin Moore | Benjamin Moore | |
| Color code | HC-84 | OC-17 | |
| Hex | #DBD3C3 | #EFEEE5 | |
| RGB | 219, 211, 195 | 239, 238, 229 | |
| HSL | 40°, 25%, 81% | 54°, 24%, 92% | |
| LRV (light reflectance value) | 64.7 | 83.2 | −18.5 |
| Lab L* | 84.8 | 94.0 | −9.2 |
| Lab a* | 0.0 | -1.2 | +1.3 |
| Lab b* | 8.9 | 4.5 | +4.4 |
| Undertone | Warm | Warm Yellow | |
| Temperature | warm | warm | |
| Color family | Beige | White |
Same paint, two kinds of light
Elmira White (BM HC-84), published as #DBD3C3
#CAC9C1
#EDDDC3
White Dove (BM OC-17), published as #EFEEE5
#DDE4E3
#FFF8E5
These swatches and the rooms above are a simulation, not a measurement. How the visualizer works
Which should you pick
Rules of thumb computed from the LRV and Lab values in the table above; no room test was done.
- Pick White Dove (BM OC-17) for a small room or a north-facing room, because it is 18.5 LRV points lighter (83.2 vs 64.7), so it bounces back more of the limited light
- Pick White Dove (BM OC-17) for a south-facing room, because its Lab b* is 4.5 against 8.9, so it is the cooler of the two and offsets warm direct sun
- Pick Elmira White (BM HC-84) to warm a north-facing room, because it is the warmer of the two (Lab b* 8.9), which counters cool indirect light
Closest matches to Elmira White in other brands
Closest matches to White Dove in other brands
Common questions
- Is Elmira White the same color as White Dove?
- They are clearly different: a CIEDE2000 difference of 7.0. Elmira White and White Dove are different colors.
- Which is lighter, Elmira White or White Dove?
- White Dove, with an LRV of 83.2 against 64.7.
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Sources: LRV and hex from Benjamin Moore technical data (verified 2026-10-02). Color differences are CIEDE2000 values computed by this site from the hex values (data snapshot 2026-10-01). Color names and codes belong to their manufacturers.